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Quote:However, this paper suggests the use of windfarms cannot make significant contribution to reducing the emissions and suggests the construction of tidal coffer dams instead. Windfarms for power generation provide intermittent power so they merely displace thermal power stations onto standby mode or to operate at reduced efficiency while the thermal power stations wait for the wind to change. They make no significant reduction to pollution because thermal power stations continue to use their fuel and to produce their emissions while operating in standby mode or with reduced efficiency that can increase their emissions at low output.

The very same windmills that kills birds,degrade the environment with transmission lines and roads,that were cut out from the possibly virgin regions.

It is plain to me that Environmentalists,are not interested in rational thinking.
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are greenies ever interested in rational thinking ?  It still boggles my mind that birds die in a tailing pond from the oilsands and the greenies get uptight over it, yet an undisclosed number of birds are killed by these supposedly green wind farms and the greenies don't say a peep.
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Another example of irrational thinking,their overt hypocristy.

Plus some of them are just GAIA grade stupid.

""Plus some of them are just GAIA grade stupid.""

I believe that is just a cover. By any means whatsoever they are attempting to trigger a population crash. By keeping attention focused on AGW, governments, well the UK government at least, are ignoring the requests for funding on the existing powerstations, 50% are due close time expired in the next five years. The loss of capacity will never be replaced by wind or tidal facilities. I predict severe power cuts here in the UK before this winter is over, mainly from lack of maintenance on sub-station transformers coupled with the more severe weather we seem to be getting this year. I hope I am wrong.

(12-27-2009 10:19 AM)Richard111 Wrote:  ""Plus some of them are just GAIA grade stupid.""

I believe that is just a cover. By any means whatsoever they are attempting to trigger a population crash. By keeping attention focused on AGW, governments, well the UK government at least, are ignoring the requests for funding on the existing powerstations, 50% are due close time expired in the next five years. The loss of capacity will never be replaced by wind or tidal facilities. I predict severe power cuts here in the UK before this winter is over, mainly from lack of maintenance on sub-station transformers coupled with the more severe weather we seem to be getting this year. I hope I am wrong.

The problem is that voters desires to stay warm and will be very interested in why they are not keeping up the power supplies.

I see a lot of politicians getting replaced with new blood who will push for more power producing plants.Otherwise voters will have to get by with a lot of blankets and books to pass the time,since computers,heaters and phones will no longer work.

If the voters are that stupid not to demand the increase,then they deserve to live in the early 1800's conditions again.

(12-27-2009 12:01 PM)Sunsettommy Wrote:  If the voters are that stupid not to demand the increase,then they deserve to live in the early 1800's conditions again.

Back in 1997 I said to my wife the country needs a good dose of Labour to bring it to its senses. How wrong I was! After three general elections Labour are still in power with a huge majority. At each election barely 25% of votes were cast for Labour. Over 60% of the electorate failed to vote at all at all three elections!

In my opinion the voting public in the UK are indeed extremely stupid.
With the current huge public service (hah!) base and the vast number of state dependant quangos and personnel the Labour vote can only increase.

I think Gordon Brown is deliberately working towards a total collapse of the pound which will leave the euro as the stable currency in the UK.
He has already signed over all government rights to Brussels. His final stroke will be to remove all state finance and support from the queen.

Gordon Brown has done a brilliant job of undermining the democratic and capitalistic structure of UK Plc.

Quote:Over 60% of the electorate failed to vote at all at all three elections!

Pathetic!

Then they should shut the hell up about their government,since they are not doing their part to clear out the bottom feeders.