hello from Climate Realist

[Climate Realist]

Hello all,
this is Climate Realist from the Climate Realists site dropping in to say hello and keep the climate real!!

I'm taking a break from bickering with Grouper to chat with some like minded sensible folk here!

remember, everything the CAGW side tell you is 180degrees from the truth!

cheers

CR

[Sunsettommy]

(07-16-2010 04:13 PM)Climate Realist Wrote:  Hello all,
this is Climate Realist from the Climate Realists site dropping in to say hello and keep the climate real!!

I'm taking a break from bickering with Grouper to chat with some like minded sensible folk here!

remember, everything the CAGW side tell you is 180degrees from the truth!

cheers

CR

Welcome!

Here we try to encourage DISCUSSIONS not debates.

The idea is to gain a greater understanding on what we read about the wide ranging subject of climate.

People like Questioner and Groper are terrified of this forum because I prefer Discussions and not debate.They know about my forum too,since they have in the past made snotty comments about the forum I run.

[Climate Realist]

(07-16-2010 04:29 PM)Sunsettommy Wrote:  -snip-

Welcome!

Here we try to encourage DISCUSSIONS not debates.

The idea is to gain a greater understanding on what we read about the wide ranging subject of climate.

People like Questioner and Groper are terrified of this forum because I prefer Discussions and not debate.They know about my forum too,since they have in the past made snotty comments about the forum I run.

Thank you for the quick welcome and for helping me with registration to this site!! I got here in the end.

I am intrigued and have questions to ask, the first is:-

What do you consider is the difference between discussion and debate??

[Sunsettommy]

Good question.

Discussion is where two or more people comment about something for the shared purpose of learning.There may not be an agreement,but there is still a building of understanding among all parties on any discussions.

This is what scientists are supposed to be doing in research via,seminars,mails,phone calls and publication.

It is the gentle method of talk.

Debate is where two or more people comment about something for the singular purpose of proving the other side is wrong.It is likely that disagreements will abound.Such confrontations may harden beliefs beyond a point where continued constructive exchanges become impossible.

This what politicians commonly do.

It is the confrontational method of talk.

Did I make sense?

[Climate Realist]

Sunsettomy/Ravenna, yes you did make sense and your answer was along the lines I was hoping for.

Not sure why Q and Gr have not shown up here though. Gr seems to act like a Troll trying to get a rise and an abusive escalation of response to his/her provocation and thereby try to make a sceptic site look bad, thus blackening all sceptic/realists- that seems to be his/her passive-aggressive tactic- provoke, be attacked, passively blacken. Actually, I think they are the same schizophrenic individual. Anyway, it is past my bedtime being past 1am, so I will say good night!

maybe they (him/her) have not shown up because they would have been eaten alive here!

keep the climate real!

cheers

CR

[Sunsettommy]

(07-16-2010 05:06 PM)Climate Realist Wrote:  Sunsettomy/Ravenna, yes you did make sense and your answer was along the lines I was hoping for.

Not sure why Q and Gr have not shown up here though. Gr seems to act like a Troll trying to get a rise and an abusive escalation of response to his/her provocation and thereby try to make a sceptic site look bad, thus blackening all sceptic/realists- that seems to be his/her passive-aggressive tactic- provoke, be attacked, passively blacken. Actually, I think they are the same schizophrenic individual. Anyway, it is past my bedtime being past 1am, so I will say good night!

maybe they (him/her) have not shown up because they would have been eaten alive here!

keep the climate real!

cheers

CR

Well I am glad I made sense to one person on the planet.Maybe one more will show up someday.



The moderators have too much tolerance of their troll baiting at that forum.I would have given them warning and even suspensions if they did that here.

But I admit that sometimes the skeptics get out of hand THERE too.Here I would emphasize that we keep it under control for everyone.

[Climate Realist]

(07-16-2010 05:25 PM)Sunsettommy Wrote:  -snip-
But I admit that sometimes the skeptics get out of hand THERE too.Here I would emphasize that we keep it under control for everyone.

What do you mean by some sceptics on the other site were out of order?? Hartlod???

Please PM me if you would prefer! If the answer is sensitive. I hope I never got too out of order!!

[Sunsettommy]

(07-16-2010 05:39 PM)Climate Realist Wrote:  

(07-16-2010 05:25 PM)Sunsettommy Wrote:  -snip-
But I admit that sometimes the skeptics get out of hand THERE too.Here I would emphasize that we keep it under control for everyone.

What do you mean by some sceptics on the other site were out of order?? Hartlod???

Please PM me if you would prefer! If the answer is sensitive. I hope I never got too out of order!!

He he...,

I am not going to bring up names here,but suffice to say that I once went over the line in the Moderators opinion and he deleted the post.That was when I was sunsettommy,now I am an angel as Ravenna.

The skeptics there have been far better in their manners than those of the alarmists/Warmists/AGW believer.

That is why when a skeptic does put in a few lines that are overly emotional,it stands out.With the other guys it is too common.

That is one reason why I stopped replying to Questioner and Groupie,they just move the "goalpost" around which is a mark of a troll.

I prefer that everyone keep it under control.No matter what they believe.

[Richard111]

A personal opinion. I think it pointless and a waste of time responding to any comments that don't provide information of interest. I mostly do not understand the full physics/science of the subject under discussion but can usually provide a link to a qualified source that supports my thinking.

[Derek]

Please accept my belated hello and welcome Climate Realist.

May I just add that discussion is positive in nature, it is aimed at hopefully improving our understanding.
Debate is negative in nature, the aim is to destroy the enemy, win by any means.

I am the same Derek that used to occasionally post at and visit your site / forum, and
if I remember correctly it was me who named Q, well, errr, Q.
I stopped posting because of Q, and his debating techniques,
although I still sometimes visit.. Not as often as I should do though - .

In all honesty I think Q's presence (even now confined to his own "playpen") harms your forum,
which is a shame for the many excellant people, and posters you have there.

[Climate Realist]

The forum has gone very quiet for the past few months and will be retired from 1st August. Climate Realists will soon be a news site/ blog only.

BTW, I joined as Climate Realist ages before the site changed from CO2 sceptic to Climate Realist, but the name change was not connected with me.

[Sunsettommy]

Climate Realists is best when it is a news site/blogging anyway.

The forum was always the weakest part in my opinion.

[Derek]

Should an open invite for the CR forum members there be posted to come here after August 1st. ?
Qualified with a comment explaining this forum's approach to discussion / debate.